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		<title>By: Adam Cleaver</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adam Cleaver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jan 2010 15:43:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the ideas, Adam! There’s always a trade-off in communication design between aesthetic principles, technology and commercial pressures – this is even more apparent on the web, where designer are still wrestling with control of “look and feel” from the underlying technology. The best designed website, magazine, newspaper etc can still fail commercially – success is about maintaining the fine balance between dazzling design, connecting with users and mastering the technology.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the ideas, Adam! There’s always a trade-off in communication design between aesthetic principles, technology and commercial pressures – this is even more apparent on the web, where designer are still wrestling with control of “look and feel” from the underlying technology. The best designed website, magazine, newspaper etc can still fail commercially – success is about maintaining the fine balance between dazzling design, connecting with users and mastering the technology.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Davies</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan Davies</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2010 10:31:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agreed, design will hopefully come into its own, quite often journalists fall back on Wordpress. 

The most interesting part of Mag+ video (shoved on my Tumblr site) for me was a deconstruction of how magazine design works, some journalists might be able to replicate elements of this. 

Or maybe a Wordpress template can be developed which considers a visual element and a more layered magazine type structure?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agreed, design will hopefully come into its own, quite often journalists fall back on Wordpress. </p>
<p>The most interesting part of Mag+ video (shoved on my Tumblr site) for me was a deconstruction of how magazine design works, some journalists might be able to replicate elements of this. </p>
<p>Or maybe a Wordpress template can be developed which considers a visual element and a more layered magazine type structure?</p>
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		<title>By: Noel Wiggins</title>
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		<dc:creator>Noel Wiggins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jan 2010 13:41:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Its a sad reality that a story or a business can be successful if the design is not. If the content is good and people want/need it they will buy into it.

But there is no doubt that if you have great content and this great content gets interpreted in a visually appealing way you will have an even more successful piece in the end.

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Thanks and Regards

Noel for Nopun.com
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nopun.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;a professional graphic design studio&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its a sad reality that a story or a business can be successful if the design is not. If the content is good and people want/need it they will buy into it.</p>
<p>But there is no doubt that if you have great content and this great content gets interpreted in a visually appealing way you will have an even more successful piece in the end.</p>
<p>&#8211;</p>
<p>Thanks and Regards</p>
<p>Noel for Nopun.com<br />
<a href="http://www.nopun.com/" rel="nofollow">a professional graphic design studio</a></p>
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		<title>By: Martin Cloake</title>
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		<dc:creator>Martin Cloake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jan 2010 10:01:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It seems we were writing on similar subjects at roughly the same time yesterday, Adam. http://bit.ly/8RNqhW 

Design hasn&#039;t moved on in the same way other aspects of the trade have online, and this is a constant source of frustration to many. I&#039;m also not convinced that people won&#039;t read long form work online - design plays a role here too, as I argue at the link above. In fact, I&#039;m just working up another post on that very subject.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems we were writing on similar subjects at roughly the same time yesterday, Adam. <a href="http://bit.ly/8RNqhW" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/8RNqhW</a> </p>
<p>Design hasn&#8217;t moved on in the same way other aspects of the trade have online, and this is a constant source of frustration to many. I&#8217;m also not convinced that people won&#8217;t read long form work online &#8211; design plays a role here too, as I argue at the link above. In fact, I&#8217;m just working up another post on that very subject.</p>
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		<title>By: Charles Borwick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charles Borwick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jan 2010 03:22:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No question there are great ideas here  but I don&#039;t think this is about website design and they don&#039;t make for the best examples.

I agree with the your point and the other comments, that this is more the domain of magazine-style content. I wonder if there is much of a place for this in online journalism though. With so much information to process, don&#039;t we need to get it in the fastest, most consumable form possible?

How many people actually read any kind of long-from writing online? (in front of a computer).

In the end, I think you are right. But what&#039;s missing is an emphasis that the future of being online isn&#039;t being on a computer, it&#039;s being on a Kindle-like device and at that point design will matter more and will definitely be a factor in people&#039;s willingness to pay for it. In fact people are already willing to pay for content on a Kindle when it is free online.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No question there are great ideas here  but I don&#8217;t think this is about website design and they don&#8217;t make for the best examples.</p>
<p>I agree with the your point and the other comments, that this is more the domain of magazine-style content. I wonder if there is much of a place for this in online journalism though. With so much information to process, don&#8217;t we need to get it in the fastest, most consumable form possible?</p>
<p>How many people actually read any kind of long-from writing online? (in front of a computer).</p>
<p>In the end, I think you are right. But what&#8217;s missing is an emphasis that the future of being online isn&#8217;t being on a computer, it&#8217;s being on a Kindle-like device and at that point design will matter more and will definitely be a factor in people&#8217;s willingness to pay for it. In fact people are already willing to pay for content on a Kindle when it is free online.</p>
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		<title>By: Kathy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kathy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jan 2010 21:07:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What you are describing is one of the differences between newspapers and magazines. I&#039;d argue that every news story doesn&#039;t need an expanded multimedia-scape -- just like every story in a newspaper doesn&#039;t belong in a magazine -- although the multimedia package certainly works for &quot;big&quot; stories (loosely defined).

However, the implication that form is more important than content is flawed, in my opinion, and I&#039;ve not seen any research data that bears it out. Plus, far too many &quot;pretty&quot; websites are absolutely not usable (ie, too often designers privilege eye candy over functionality).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What you are describing is one of the differences between newspapers and magazines. I&#8217;d argue that every news story doesn&#8217;t need an expanded multimedia-scape &#8212; just like every story in a newspaper doesn&#8217;t belong in a magazine &#8212; although the multimedia package certainly works for &#8220;big&#8221; stories (loosely defined).</p>
<p>However, the implication that form is more important than content is flawed, in my opinion, and I&#8217;ve not seen any research data that bears it out. Plus, far too many &#8220;pretty&#8221; websites are absolutely not usable (ie, too often designers privilege eye candy over functionality).</p>
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		<title>By: Bryan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jan 2010 19:54:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like where you are getting at with this article and I too would like to see a wave of informative web experiences put together with a real user experience in mind, rather than just spitting out a story or content.

However I don&#039;t think that kind of mentality will ever hit mainstream news. I do feel it is a possible alternative to the traditional magazine industry. 

The reason why I don&#039;t think it will ever hit the mainstream news is that that kind of attention and detail costs time and money. A lot of time and money. Reporters are cranking out stories constantly. Too fast for a good experience like that to be created.  Putting that much work into daily news stories is overkill. It&#039;s why newspapers are as simple as they are. Magazines however are a different story.

Magazines are inherently visual because they have the time to go in depth on the information as well as the experience. They can worry about textures, colors, visuals, etc. That kind of experience you can transform into a digital experience quite well and yes I do agree with you, people will pay for a good digital informative experience. 

I for one am excited for the shift. I do not think we are coming close to the visual and informative potential that we have right now and I&#039;d like to see that potential better used. Very interesting post you have, we&#039;ll see what the future brings.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like where you are getting at with this article and I too would like to see a wave of informative web experiences put together with a real user experience in mind, rather than just spitting out a story or content.</p>
<p>However I don&#8217;t think that kind of mentality will ever hit mainstream news. I do feel it is a possible alternative to the traditional magazine industry. </p>
<p>The reason why I don&#8217;t think it will ever hit the mainstream news is that that kind of attention and detail costs time and money. A lot of time and money. Reporters are cranking out stories constantly. Too fast for a good experience like that to be created.  Putting that much work into daily news stories is overkill. It&#8217;s why newspapers are as simple as they are. Magazines however are a different story.</p>
<p>Magazines are inherently visual because they have the time to go in depth on the information as well as the experience. They can worry about textures, colors, visuals, etc. That kind of experience you can transform into a digital experience quite well and yes I do agree with you, people will pay for a good digital informative experience. </p>
<p>I for one am excited for the shift. I do not think we are coming close to the visual and informative potential that we have right now and I&#8217;d like to see that potential better used. Very interesting post you have, we&#8217;ll see what the future brings.</p>
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