Comments on: Coming soon: new ideas for the business of online journalism http://www.journalism20.com/blog/2009/05/12/coming-soon-new-ideas-for-the-business-of-online-journalism/ How to survive and thrive in the digital age Mon, 19 Jul 2010 17:29:38 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: PB http://www.journalism20.com/blog/2009/05/12/coming-soon-new-ideas-for-the-business-of-online-journalism/comment-page-1/#comment-6966 PB Wed, 27 May 2009 08:28:07 +0000 http://www.journalism20.com/blog/?p=474#comment-6966 Yes! BuzzGrub is an entrepreneurial website that has come out of this downtime. It's a place for journalists to write news, opinion pieces, etc. and basically get published. Seems like it'll be a good site to get informed. Yes! BuzzGrub is an entrepreneurial website that has come out of this downtime. It’s a place for journalists to write news, opinion pieces, etc. and basically get published. Seems like it’ll be a good site to get informed.

]]> By: Brad Haugaard http://www.journalism20.com/blog/2009/05/12/coming-soon-new-ideas-for-the-business-of-online-journalism/comment-page-1/#comment-6347 Brad Haugaard Fri, 15 May 2009 15:53:17 +0000 http://www.journalism20.com/blog/?p=474#comment-6347 One source of revenue that could be available to web-based news media would be legal advertising. Currently - in California, at least - legal ads must be published in newsPAPERS. But as newspapers reach fewer and fewer people, it is beginning to make sense to allow legal ads to be published in online local media. Even though this would ease their transition to the Net, I don't think paper news media like this idea because it could also benefit startup, online-only media. But so what? I think the goal is to save and recreate journalism, not to save printing presses. I think it is time for state legislatures to change the laws to reflect the times. One source of revenue that could be available to web-based news media would be legal advertising.

Currently – in California, at least – legal ads must be published in newsPAPERS. But as newspapers reach fewer and fewer people, it is beginning to make sense to allow legal ads to be published in online local media.

Even though this would ease their transition to the Net, I don’t think paper news media like this idea because it could also benefit startup, online-only media.

But so what? I think the goal is to save and recreate journalism, not to save printing presses.

I think it is time for state legislatures to change the laws to reflect the times.

]]> By: Mark Briggs http://www.journalism20.com/blog/2009/05/12/coming-soon-new-ideas-for-the-business-of-online-journalism/comment-page-1/#comment-6269 Mark Briggs Thu, 14 May 2009 02:21:46 +0000 http://www.journalism20.com/blog/?p=474#comment-6269 If there isn't a market for the vetting and editorial services that most newspapers (and other news organizations) could provide, it makes you wonder why there is so much talk about charging for content (see Dean Singleton). If the professional journalists can't add anything of commercial value, how can the expect to charge for it? I think Julia makes a good point that a blogger (or news site) can rely on the audience for vetting, if they choose (and if they build the right audience). But it's another strike against a market value for the editing process that journalists bring to the table. If there isn’t a market for the vetting and editorial services that most newspapers (and other news organizations) could provide, it makes you wonder why there is so much talk about charging for content (see Dean Singleton). If the professional journalists can’t add anything of commercial value, how can the expect to charge for it?

I think Julia makes a good point that a blogger (or news site) can rely on the audience for vetting, if they choose (and if they build the right audience). But it’s another strike against a market value for the editing process that journalists bring to the table.

]]> By: John Hill http://www.journalism20.com/blog/2009/05/12/coming-soon-new-ideas-for-the-business-of-online-journalism/comment-page-1/#comment-6252 John Hill Wed, 13 May 2009 22:04:16 +0000 http://www.journalism20.com/blog/?p=474#comment-6252 Julia makes a very good point re bloggers having a different approach to audience development. Some might want to pay to expand their reach but I doubt they'd want to pay much and I doubt they'd want many strings attached. And they certainly wouldn't want the mothership telling them what they could and coudn't say, ie, you can't write that because it'll upset our advertisers. I suspect many bloggers also might prefer to wear their badge of independence vs a the scarlet J a newspaper would pin on them. Julia makes a very good point re bloggers having a different approach to audience development. Some might want to pay to expand their reach but I doubt they’d want to pay much and I doubt they’d want many strings attached. And they certainly wouldn’t want the mothership telling them what they could and coudn’t say, ie, you can’t write that because it’ll upset our advertisers. I suspect many bloggers also might prefer to wear their badge of independence vs a the scarlet J a newspaper would pin on them.

]]> By: Julia Scott http://www.journalism20.com/blog/2009/05/12/coming-soon-new-ideas-for-the-business-of-online-journalism/comment-page-1/#comment-6195 Julia Scott Wed, 13 May 2009 00:30:56 +0000 http://www.journalism20.com/blog/?p=474#comment-6195 Wish I could have made the conference, sounds fascinating. Thanks for the re-cap, tho. The "stamp of approval" model is interesting, but I'm hesitant. Wouldn't it better serve the established news org to provide high quality blogs in house? Fees from bloggers are never going to be so high that they would significantly alter the approver's bottom line. And bloggers are pretty savvy about cultivating their audiences by networking online. My point is that print and online news providers have such different business models that I'm not sure they go together, for lack of a more high-minded description. What do you think, Mark? Wish I could have made the conference, sounds fascinating. Thanks for the re-cap, tho. The “stamp of approval” model is interesting, but I’m hesitant. Wouldn’t it better serve the established news org to provide high quality blogs in house? Fees from bloggers are never going to be so high that they would significantly alter the approver’s bottom line. And bloggers are pretty savvy about cultivating their audiences by networking online. My point is that print and online news providers have such different business models that I’m not sure they go together, for lack of a more high-minded description. What do you think, Mark?

]]> By: Anna Henderson http://www.journalism20.com/blog/2009/05/12/coming-soon-new-ideas-for-the-business-of-online-journalism/comment-page-1/#comment-6179 Anna Henderson Tue, 12 May 2009 19:28:19 +0000 http://www.journalism20.com/blog/?p=474#comment-6179 Yes! BuzzGrub is an entrepreneurial website that has come out of this downtime. It's a place for journalists to write news, opinion pieces, etc. and basically get published. Seems like it'll be a good site to get informed. Yes! BuzzGrub is an entrepreneurial website that has come out of this downtime. It’s a place for journalists to write news, opinion pieces, etc. and basically get published. Seems like it’ll be a good site to get informed.

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